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| 03.14.05 (12:19 pm) [edit] |
So from going to church with my friends I have decided that neither of us are crazy we just value very different things.
I have been going to a church thing wiht my friend almsot once a week sometimes twice a week just to listen to speakers etc... I tried to listen to everything with a fairly open mind because otherwise there really wouldn't be much point in me coming and I came to a conclusion that they just value different things alot and look at life alot different from me.
I remember one speaker came in and he said that without god there was no meaning in life. I mean you could get married, have kids, get a job, help people but that your life had no meaning. Well I'm sorry but I guess I wouldn't like my life to have meaning then becasue to me those things he mentioned have all the meaning in the world.
He also said we were all just wondering aimlessly and that there was really no reason to be good unless you were going to heaven. In my opinion taht statement alone is disgusting. Maybe you can be nice just to make the world a better place. I mean yes there are psychologist that believe the only reason people are nice is for themselves but even that is acting without god. I know alot of people who don't believe in any afterlife that are extremely nice and caring people and would go out of their way to help others. Telling people that they are only nice because they want to go to heaven I think I would even take offense to.
Last night I also listened to quite a few members pray for their parents because their parents were athiests because their parents weren't baptised. I'm sorry but aslong as your parents support you you really shouldn't complain. IF htey tell you becuase you believe in god you are a horrible child I can understand but if they support goign to church with you and EVEN GO sometimes with you then shut up. You have no righ to complain.
I liked the one man that came and said that christianity was destroying the environment because they see earth as such an unimportant place because we will all leave here one day. He made some very valid points. Not all christians ruin the environment but I liked how he pointed out this mindset that they have. IT's another VERY different mindset from me who believes everything I have to offer is here on this earth.
They also talk bout people who believe in god have no comfort... This is true it's hard when someone dies to think I can never see them again as there is no heaven for me. But I take comfort in memories. For me to tell myself I'm going to see them again in heaven would be to lie to myself so why bother.
Another point that a speaker brought up was that there is no such thing as opinion or values. A teacher told him that once in class and he went up to her after class and told her she was wrong because jesus christ gave us values and an opinion. The woman laughed at him and refused to talk anymore about it. Then he went on about how her point was utterly sick because in other countries (Or even in this one I'd like to point out) women are beaten or put down on and how could this be right because JESUS CHRIST says it's not. Well maybe in my values I think it's wrong and even in the christian values he seems to think it's wrong (even though I had an english teacher who read us parts in the bible that said you could beat your wife). Well I'm sorry but the WHOLE WORLD isn't christian and who is to say what the right vvalues are or not. I'm goign to have to agree with his teahcer on this one.
So I really think thsoe are the main differences. They probably think I am insane for not being able to let jesus into my heart but I think they are insane for letting him in there. But hey then again I could be wrong. Maybe history doesn't matter. Maybe great leaders had no MEANING and I guess definately then hitler has NO MEANING because this is just earth.
It's not just religion though that I find people have different opinions then me. I mean most of the time I sit in this room of mine without TV or movies doing my homework but everyonce and awhile I am reminded that not everyone has the same priorities as me. For instance two nights ago an older lady friend of my room mate was driving us home from a play we saw. She asked if the actors were paid to which we replied no that they were just students from our university. Then she started to get in a fit because she'd paid 12 dollars to go see the show. She's like "Well then were does the money go your univesrity? THAT IS DISGUSTING! They should give it to a charity!"... well fisrt of all I tried to explain to her that there were production costs that they needed to take care of and I really didn't know if the rest of the money went to my university or not but I lost alot of respect for this lady. I'm sorry but to me even if the rest of hte money DID go to our univesrity or any school in TODAYS culture they ALL ARE charities!
Maybe it's because I was brought up in a household full of teachers or maybe it's because my "values" are all out of wack but even in the dark ages when ot was considered to be the worst time to live they focused on education. Now it was run by the churches and definately not everyone could read or have access to books but they tried to educate the people the best they could. Now the goverment shows so little interest in edcation. Now I do realize we need business in the way our world runs today (however I am a strong isolationist) so I realize we can't give it all to our schools but there is definately more to go around than they are investing. We learned last year in politics that canada was one of the FIRST COUNTRIES to sign a contract with the UN to promise free post secondary education within 10 years of when the contract was signed and it was FAR MORE than 10 years since htat contract had been signed and our teacher had a copy and passed it around and sure enough it stated that. Other countries do it. Quebec has free college and university is only 2000 for students. Now the states is FAR FAR worse but we can do far far better!
So maybe my values are all out of wack but htey are what I think and an opinion or value really can't be wrong now can it? And I have learned something: Going to church for a non believer is like a weekend of bad sex... it leaves you very disapointed!
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posted by: Snow White (reply)
post date: 03.14.05 (12:55 pm)
hmmm... very interesting... I don't have any clue as to what I believe anymore, and it was interesting to read your views on the speakers
posted by: AlCreed (reply)
post date: 03.14.05 (2:56 pm)
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so Un-Christ-like."
-Ghandi
posted by: cherrybomb (reply)
post date: 03.14.05 (3:54 pm)
I love that quote... It's not true for them all but some you can see the speakers fall on deaf ears!
LOL Sorry Snow White if you didn't like my view on the speakers it's just a view don't even know if I'm right jsut something I noticed! I am bias however!
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